IRC log 2011 10 17
21:01:40 <ShayWalters> Hi ossfm
21:06:41 <ossfm> hi shaywalters
21:06:56 <ossfm> things they are a changin...
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21:07:24 <ShayWalters> yep - I noticed :-)
21:09:12 <ossfm> well, i guess some things are.
21:09:48 <ossfm> are you comfortable inking a multiyear deal at a venue?
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21:10:11 <GTswagger> on station
21:10:17 <ShayWalters> Hi GTS
21:10:28 <GTswagger> chruck: ossfm:
21:11:37 <ossfm> gtswagger:
21:11:58 <GTswagger> Yeary didn't answer his phone.
21:12:27 <ossfm> hmmm
21:12:42 <ShayWalters> doesn't he have something on Mondays that makes him late usually?
21:12:46 <ossfm> by his non answer, i take it that he is not the pres.
21:13:01 <ShayWalters> From mailing list, I think not also.
21:13:06 <ossfm> shaywalters, i didn't think so.
21:13:38 <ossfm> non answer to the proposal from last week, i mean.
21:13:48 <ShayWalters> Oh - yes, I agree
21:14:46 <GTswagger> yeary on phone ... 1s
21:15:16 <GTswagger> something about reimaging his laptop
21:15:20 <GTswagger> Yeary will be on momentarily
21:18:24 <chruck> sorry for not being around for a while: What's going on, what's the agenda?
21:18:40 <GTswagger> alot
21:18:55 <chruck> Oh, and congrats GTswagger , just got a new job myself!
21:19:55 <ossfm> chruck, how so?
21:20:40 <chruck> I left Condrey Corp, now working for M33
21:21:26 <GTswagger> chruck: have you escaped Novell Netware yet?
21:21:39 <chruck> Oh, yes!
21:22:07 <chruck> This place is more sane
21:22:20 <GTswagger> chruck: HA!
21:23:08 <ossfm> shall we go ahead and start then.
21:23:17 <chruck> +1
21:23:18 <GTswagger> wait on yeary
21:23:21 <ossfm> y
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21:23:31 <GTswagger> see
21:23:32 <GTswagger> told ya
21:23:34 <GTswagger> :)
21:23:38 <ShayWalters> sotd
21:24:53 <chruck> +1
21:24:59 <GTswagger> Now that we have quorum... lets proceed
21:25:05 <ShayWalters> +1
21:25:19 <GTswagger> jyeary: so you've slept on it ... repeatedly ... gots a decision?
21:25:37 <ossfm> the only one missing is terrorpup
21:26:32 <jyeary> I am still on the fence. You now have more time is this a position would would like fill?
21:27:05 <GTswagger> Well yes. Full disclosure I want to turn SELF and my college sports websites into my career.
21:27:13 <GTswagger> I would be the full time ish employee SELF needs.
21:27:22 <ossfm> if you're on the fence, i promote that to a full fledged no.
21:27:30 <GTswagger> and when we get on sound footing, I would propose something along the lines of being paid a percentage of sponsorships
21:27:44 <GTswagger> that's my master plan ... </fulldisclosure>
21:28:02 <ShayWalters> @GTS - not unreasonable, IMO
21:28:20 <jyeary> Congratulations Mr. President!
21:28:50 <GTswagger> we need a VP.
21:28:51 <ossfm> Pres and sponsor coordinator.
21:29:03 <GTswagger> I suggest jyeary since you've had the most experience.
21:29:11 <GTswagger> I would then in turn suggest ShayWalters for Treasurer.
21:29:21 <terrorpup> here
21:29:21 <jyeary> K
21:29:44 <GTswagger> I would then in turn suggest Chuck as the new Speaker Coordinator.
21:29:45 <jyeary> *suddenly fearful* at the appearance of a terrorpup
21:29:53 <GTswagger> I would then fulfil the duties and obligations of community outreach myself.
21:30:35 <GTswagger> So, what do you guys thing of my 3 person shift?
21:30:49 <jyeary> I am OK with it.
21:31:03 <GTswagger> s/thing/think/
21:31:12 <ShayWalters> OK w/ me - need to know more
21:31:23 <GTswagger> ShayWalters: ask away while jyeary is here
21:31:30 <terrorpup> ok, if you need me there, I don't mind doing the community stuff
21:31:30 <ossfm> terrorpup is community outreach, if i'm not mistaken.
21:31:40 <GTswagger> terrorpup: thoughts on being a Speaker Coordinator?
21:31:57 <ShayWalters> do we have an accountant, or does treasurer file IRS & State tax stuff, etc?
21:32:07 <ossfm> (he goes for the rumored 4-person shift)
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21:32:54 <GTswagger> If terrorpup wants to do Speaker and Community that's fine with me, I suggested my getting it purely because my schedule has beautifully opened up you might say. :) And as sponsor coord/Pres I'll be traveling for SELF the most anyway.
21:33:25 <GTswagger> But note that even if I do assume the comm. coordinator role, I would be leaning on you heavily anyway terrorpup as you have by far the best community contacts and experience
21:34:00 <ossfm> then i suggest community stays with terrorpup and gtswagger delegates/requests as necessary.
21:34:19 <terrorpup> I am cool with that
21:35:12 <GTswagger> terrorpup: just to be clear, you're cool with being community and speaker coordinator?
21:36:11 <terrorpup> can I think about, remember this is my first gig
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21:36:34 <GTswagger> terrorpup: if you're nervous we can fill speaker coordinator at large :)
21:36:42 <jyeary> Hello Doug
21:37:03 <terrorpup> GTswagger, let me think about for a day or so.
21:37:11 <GTswagger> terrorpup: okie dokie
21:37:26 <GTswagger> but I feel confident we can fill it at large if you want.
21:38:07 <terrorpup> at large is a person?
21:38:33 <GTswagger> terrorpup: I can think of a few people in UCLUG who would do well... in particular Jared.
21:38:43 <chruck> +1 jared
21:38:54 <terrorpup> ah, gotcha
21:39:10 <terrorpup> by the way, last weekend I ran into Alan Hicks
21:39:34 <GTswagger> terrorpup: What a traumatic experience! :)
21:39:39 <ossfm> i hope you didn't knock the chew out of his hand... ;)
21:39:57 <cobra2> or move too fast
21:40:05 <terrorpup> lol, I like Alan, we were at The Rock Ranch
21:40:39 * GTswagger ponders if that is indeed a western themed strip club by the name
21:41:06 <GTswagger> Was I openly channeling #self-offtopic? My apologies. Even though Amanda and rbergeron will be amused.
21:42:18 <terrorpup> Ok, I will do speaker, and the at large can do community.
21:42:30 <GTswagger> frowny face!
21:42:39 <GTswagger> Jared does NOT have the community experience you do.
21:42:39 <terrorpup> ? K
21:42:51 <terrorpup> ok ok
21:43:04 <terrorpup> community is it with help on speaker
21:43:11 <GTswagger> You've been an OpenSuSe ambassador, you know what community organizations look like where to go to engage people and so on and so on
21:43:25 <GTswagger> terrorpup: how about you community and Jared speaker? :)
21:43:35 <GTswagger> Seriously, I think Jared would do great as speaker.
21:43:36 <terrorpup> LOL, ok.
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21:43:44 <GTswagger> Silence of the lambs over there (chruck) even agrees with me.
21:43:58 <terrorpup> I guess I miss read something, ok.
21:44:13 <chruck> It puts the lotion on its skin...
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21:44:30 <GTswagger> okay so let's vote this thing before we lose quorum:
21:44:40 <jyeary> I am back...
21:44:52 <ShayWalters> howdy
21:44:59 <GTswagger> Motion to approve Jeremy as President, jyeary as Vice President, ShayWalters as Treasurer, and solicit Jared in UCLUG for Speaker Coordinator.
21:45:07 <jyeary> +1
21:45:15 <GTswagger> +1
21:45:16 <ShayWalters> +1
21:45:23 <terrorpup> +1
21:45:31 <ossfm> +1
21:45:50 <GTswagger> wow we have all 6 people on tonight ... didn't realize that.
21:45:54 * GTswagger kicks chruck in the shins
21:45:55 <chruck> +1
21:45:57 <GTswagger> there we go
21:46:05 <jyeary> A good result.
21:46:11 <chruck> terrorpup: remains...?
21:46:24 <GTswagger> okay ... I expect a contract from The Blake this week.
21:46:36 <terrorpup> :-) cool with chruck
21:46:43 <GTswagger> With the multi-year concessions I don't expect much hassle from here out on the contract front.
21:46:46 <ossfm> will it be multi-year?
21:46:53 <chruck> ...in the role of...?
21:47:08 <GTswagger> Any objections to me soliciting immediate turnaround sponsorship dollars to clear the cobwebs on our bank account?
21:47:16 <GTswagger> ossfm: 2-year makes table/chair rentals vanish
21:47:34 <jyeary> Go for it!
21:47:43 <GTswagger> meaning we are left purely with the F&B ... which itself dropped again for a two year.
21:47:47 <ossfm> i know. i was wondering if the contract will be a multi-year. that implies a certain bit of stability.
21:48:00 <GTswagger> so I asked her to draw up 2-yr
21:48:05 <chruck> "immediate turnaround sponsorship dollars" means what?
21:48:20 <GTswagger> chruck: approaching our best sponsors and asking for net30 on payment
21:48:34 <chruck> "net30" means what?
21:48:43 <GTswagger> 30 days until it hits our hands.
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21:49:07 <GTswagger> with some groups the turnaround can be quite ... lengthy
21:49:11 <GTswagger> Red Hat in particular.
21:49:37 <GTswagger> so ... any objections to that?
21:49:45 <chruck> so, if I understand: Ask our best sponsors for 30 days for sponsorship money?
21:49:49 <terrorpup> if you want Attachment, let me send Alan Clark and e-mail
21:50:22 <GTswagger> chruck: we ask the sponsors who love us to sponsor next year, and then ask realllllllllly nicely if they can net30 that, potentially with some bonus motivation
21:50:28 <GTswagger> see batcave for what I mean by that
21:50:34 <ShayWalters> chruck: ask them to pay sponsorship within 30 days s we have some working capital
21:50:59 <jyeary> Do you guys need me I solved a cost regression differential equation last night at 02:15 and I am beat!
21:51:06 <ossfm> we are asking the sponsors to give us money real fast 'cause we need it.
21:52:00 <ossfm> go ahead.
21:52:14 <ShayWalters> Sounds good to me
21:52:18 <GTswagger> jyeary: we'll still have quorum, so you can turn in
21:52:33 <jyeary> K Give me a call tomorrow.
21:52:40 <GTswagger> who me?
21:52:54 <jyeary> Yes… The man in presidential blue.
21:53:12 <jyeary> :-)
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21:55:25 <ossfm> gtswagger: will you apply the sqlite fix to the fossil site?
21:55:49 <GTswagger> ossfm: ahhh yes ... email that me
21:55:58 <GTswagger> I'll fix it no later than end of day tomorrow
21:58:02 <GTswagger> imabug: can you pimp for self at BarCampCHS?
21:58:10 <GTswagger> If you email me your addy I'll snail mail some flyers
21:58:26 <ossfm> gtswagger: mail sent
21:59:25 <ossfm> gtswagger: i believe ke4qqq hooked you up with some graphics. that means we are a go on video now for SELF11, yes?
21:59:59 <GTswagger> ossfm: affirmative ... I'm releasing UCLUG last week tonight and then it is on to SELF 11
22:00:13 <ossfm> great!
22:02:20 <GTswagger> so ... any objections to what I said about sponsors?
22:02:28 <ossfm> does anyone here know Richard Querin like Yates did? he did all of our graphic design.
22:02:55 <GTswagger> ossfm: email dave yates asking for his info, cc the board on it
22:02:57 <ossfm> i hope he is still going to support us since Yates is out.
22:03:09 <ShayWalters> I've had a small bit of contact with him thru graphics for id cards
22:03:10 <GTswagger> ossfm: we'll threaten to take Lotta Linux Links hostage
22:03:44 <ossfm> shaywalters: can you send the contact info in a mail to the board?
22:04:08 <ShayWalters> Let me hunt it down - should have an email addy
22:05:13 <GTswagger> ossfm: in that case, ossfm, ask dave yates to see if he will re-up for our t-shirt/program guide/bags this year
22:05:32 <GTswagger> and also ask yates for the contact of the at cost printer we use for the program guides
22:05:48 <ossfm> i don't know why i would object to sponsorship money net30. it appears that we are going to survive the latest rough patch.
22:06:44 <GTswagger> I will be getting new website mockups this week
22:08:30 <GTswagger> aight ... any further business?
22:08:47 <chruck> I move we put an announcement re: location on the new website, once it is up
22:09:38 <GTswagger> absolutely
22:09:58 <ossfm> maybe we need a contract first?
22:10:00 <chruck> Yeah, after typing it, I has a "Duh" moment
22:10:13 <chruck> announce now?
22:10:20 <GTswagger> we've agreed in principle
22:10:26 <GTswagger> it's by far the best option
22:10:30 <GTswagger> it's gonna happen
22:10:50 <ossfm> let
22:10:50 <GTswagger> ergo, I think it's announceable right now
22:10:56 <GTswagger> but I'm inclined to wait until we have a new website
22:11:04 <GTswagger> to really make noise about it
22:11:09 <chruck> +1
22:11:20 <ossfm> let's announce when it is official. that can be one of the first jobs for the comm. coord...
22:11:20 <GTswagger> b/c then we can also say "and while you're here, register to show your arse up..."
22:11:25 * chruck seconds his motion
22:11:54 <GTswagger> +1 on waiting for website and official, but the website will be the later of the two I can virtually guarantee
22:12:18 <GTswagger> okay ... anything further?
22:12:25 <ossfm> we should set a deadline on the website.
22:12:46 <ShayWalters> Will SELF 2011 disappear like 2010 did?
22:12:49 <ossfm> we can do that later though.
22:12:53 <GTswagger> ossfm: -1 ... the work schedule of the people who are doing it is when it's free
22:13:07 <GTswagger> *when THEY HAVE FREE TIME I mean
22:13:12 <GTswagger> paying clients come first
22:13:15 <GTswagger> and I'm fine with that
22:13:26 <ossfm> we certainly don't want to have the new site available on 3/1/12.
22:13:32 <GTswagger> ShayWalters: I'm going to migrate the '11 stuff over to the wiki
22:13:50 <GTswagger> ossfm: it'll be done soon
22:13:59 <ossfm> they should at least have a feel for the timing.
22:13:59 <GTswagger> I trust the guy doing it ... known him for years.
22:14:10 <GTswagger> he knows the timing ... he's been to SELF
22:14:22 <GTswagger> specifically he went for DrupalCamp
22:14:25 <ossfm> you trust it'll be done by ...?
22:14:38 <GTswagger> soon
22:14:42 <GTswagger> this month or early next.
22:14:48 <ossfm> ok
22:15:01 <ossfm> that meets our needs.
22:15:12 <GTswagger> most of the hold up is graphical ... the mockups I'm going to see
22:15:14 <ossfm> that's all i wanted
22:15:19 * chruck moves to have a timed gentle reminder
22:15:20 <GTswagger> once we approve the design ... the coding goes quickly
22:15:59 <GTswagger> besides (batcave)
22:18:21 <GTswagger> any further business?
22:18:36 <ShayWalters> not fromme
22:19:29 <GTswagger> chruck: ossfm: terrorpup
22:19:32 <GTswagger> ShayWalters:
22:19:52 <ShayWalters> yes?
22:19:56 <terrorpup> no me
22:19:59 <GTswagger> Motion to adjourn.
22:20:02 <terrorpup> not me, sorry
22:20:05 <GTswagger> +1
22:20:07 <ShayWalters> +1
22:20:08 <terrorpup> +1
22:20:10 <chruck> second
22:20:22 <chruck> BTW, president can't make motions
22:20:38 <chruck> +1
22:20:51 <GTswagger> This aint Robert's Rules of Order ... and besides the political parties never follow them anyway.
22:21:04 <GTswagger> Meeting EOF
22:21:11 <ShayWalters> G'nite
22:21:15 <ossfm> bye
22:21:23 <GTswagger> ossfm: be sure to post log
22:21:25 <GTswagger> on wiki
22:21:35 <ossfm> yes
